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It's even better when the task manager crashes and you can't ctrl-alt-del it into existence again!

The item about shutdown linked to this blog which provided an interesting viewpoint into how Microsofts' products get so crapped up.

8. End Task

A program hangs. You type <Ctrl><Alt><Del> to bring up the Task Manager, then click End Task to kill the app. Nothing happens. You try again and again, and it eventually works. Or doesn't. Why is such a basic operating-system need so flaky in 2007? We're not sure. Especially since Mac OS X's equivalent feature, Force Quit, manages to work perfectly every time.

That is sooo not true. I have had the same thing happen to me on my Dual Core PowerMac G5 once or twice....

...but admittedly, not as often as my PC at home.

JMV290 wrote:

That system update thing is annoying.   I was organizing my music folder and went into the other room to get some food.   I come back into my room to see that system update decided to restart my computer all by itself.

It happens all the time at work.

So smurfing annoying.

user wrote:

8. End Task

A program hangs. You type <Ctrl><Alt><Del> to bring up the Task Manager, then click End Task to kill the app. Nothing happens. You try again and again, and it eventually works. Or doesn't. Why is such a basic operating-system need so flaky in 2007? We're not sure. Especially since Mac OS X's equivalent feature, Force Quit, manages to work perfectly every time.

::snicker::

To be fair, OS X has it's own problems some times. The other day I had a problem getting Finder, Safari and others to quit and force quit. Eventually I realized it was the FireWire port on my ACD and the FireWire HD I had connected to it that was causing the problem with Finder and by association Safari. Once I connected the FW HD directly the problem was solved. Still, there have been times. Usually it's a problem elsewhere stopping the app from quitting.

NAG wrote:

And I hope 10.5 fixes how OS X hangs when the network messes up.

Early reviews point to Yes.

In discussing Apple, with all respect ( a look at my sig shows I am committed), a few things I can't believe are not done by Apple, in order of importance:
1. Resizing windows is so much more difficult being limited to the lower right corner, especially if it is off the screen.
2. The Trash Can is not capable of restoring a file to it's original location. In some cases where the file may be related to a program or other operation, this can be serious.
3. But absolutely worst is the inability to CUT and paste a file, as well as copy and paste. It is really difficult, and very distracting to the workflow to have to remember to go back and delete the file after moving it.

All three of these go into the "why does it have to be that way" category for me, and I would be very happy if someone tells me I am wrong and here is how to do it on any of these. But until this kind of issue is fixed, it must be said that the Mac, though very well done, and a delight to use, can still be improved... easily.

Regards,

Last edited by Art743 (2007-07-11 7:47 pm)

Good point. I am excited about time machine, but had not considered it in that context. Thanks.

Art743 wrote:

3. But absolutely worst is the inability to CUT and paste a file, as well as copy and paste. It is really difficult, and very distracting to the workflow to have to remember to go back and delete the file after moving it.

FWIW, if you select the file, drag it to another folder, then hold the command key while letting go of the mouse button, it'll do a move file instead of a copy file.

I do find myself wishing for a Cut/Copy/Paste file functionality though, you need to have two windows open or have the destination directory in a directory below the current one.

And the Finder haning on network shares is brutal. Read-only FTP is pretty bad too. FTFF!

Art743 wrote:

1. Resizing windows is so much more difficult being limited to the lower right corner, especially if it is off the screen.

That, and taking away windowshading were the 2 things I missed most from OS 9.

To this day, the first thing I do after a fresh OS install is to install the Windowshades haxie. I'm pretty sure that functionality was removed to force people to use the Dock. I use both.

http://moishelettvin.blogspot.com/2006/ … pfest.html

This link was on the list about the Shutdown behavior of Windows, it's a former Windows developer talking about how the Shutdown behavior of Windows was developed. Some good pro-Mac stuff in there.

Art743 wrote:

3. But absolutely worst is the inability to CUT and paste a file, as well as copy and paste. It is really difficult, and very distracting to the workflow to have to remember to go back and delete the file after moving it.,

control-c, then control-v.

Last edited by FutureDreamz (2007-07-12 2:26 am)