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Definitely should have a spouse that's GGG.

Tallgeese wrote:

wellfleation wrote:

keprydak wrote:

I've always wondered why pre-marital sex is still stigmatized... Why does it still carry such a heavy burden of guilt and sin and secretiveness?

It really doesn't. I think it's the other way around in that people think a couple is strange in some way for waiting.

Indeed. In some of these threads on this subject, there have been those who attack the ones who 'wait' - even if they are stating a personal choice and not insisting that others follow it - as though they are stupid or brainwashed and doing harm to themselves and others.

FTR, I didn't, but I don't really think I'd be terribly damaged and have a lousy sex life now if I had.

Seems to me it isnt the "waiting" that gets the criticism. It's the foolish assertions about what pre-marital sex does to people and the imagined benefits the Waitists seem to think they will gain compared to the dreadful, unfulfilled sex lives their churches handbook assures them all the rest of us have.
Rare indeed is the biblically motivated that can talk about what they do without getting in some shots at those who choose a different path.

I don't care if or when someone has sex. I just think the reasoning is kind of weird.

I'm not even bothering to read this thread. Sorry.

I am 100% for sex before marriage and I am 100% for chastity belts for children. Premarital sex and pregnant teenagers are two completely different subjects.

pottymouth wrote:

I'm not even bothering to read this thread. Sorry.

I am 100% for sex before marriage and I am 100% for chastity belts for children. Premarital sex and pregnant teenagers are two completely different subjects.

Maybe not chastity belts, but definitely  better sex education in the schools.  This absinance only junk they're teaching now is just detrimental to society, and I hate that my tax dollars are funding and educational program that I DO NO SUPPORT! 

Teaching kids that having sex is bad, and not even mentioning that if you do get into the situation you should use proper protection is just....ludicrous.

There's no better protection than knowledge. 

Stupid Mothersmurfing idiotic conservative country. 

I just watched that episode last night, actually. But I've felt that sex ed has been lacking for a while.

The other day a friend of mine was telling me that her sister actually have to take a pledge not to have sex in HS.   A pledge!  They get rings and everything.  Naturally, she declined to sign the pledge, and was the only one who did.

Guess who's still a virgin.

CrashingtehWarehouse wrote:

The other day a friend of mine was telling me that her sister actually have to take a pledge not to have sex in HS.   A pledge!  They get rings and everything.  Naturally, she declined to sign the pledge, and was the only one who did.

That was an episode of Grounded For Life.

Consider yourself lucky.

Mercury52 wrote:

I wonder if Penn and Teller ever did/plan on doing an episode of Bull**** regarding sex before marriage and/or general abstenance.  I bet they'd have an interesting thing or two to say, and they'd probably manage to work some nice imagery into the episode as well.

They did, and yes there was interesting imagery. Though I preferred the Hair and Breasts episodes.

Jasoco wrote:

user wrote:

I think saving yourself for marriage puts unrealistic expectations on the reality of sex. It's just smurfing.

I agree. I've done it. It's no big deal. The real important part is that you're with someone you care about. "Saving yourself" just seems crazy in this day and age.

Why do you have to care about the person you have sex with? What’s wrong with casual sex? It’s just making a part of your body feel good with someone.


Religion has chained down the notion of sex so much in society, I find it completely ridiculous. I am much more offended by violence than sex.

Pariah wrote:

Seems to me it isnt the "waiting" that gets the criticism. It's the foolish assertions about what pre-marital sex does to people and the imagined benefits the Waitists seem to think they will gain compared to the dreadful, unfulfilled sex lives their churches handbook assures them all the rest of us have.

In that case, foolish assertions go both ways, because if you didnt wait, what basis would you have for judging between two different paths when you only took one of them?