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#51 2007-08-18 2:14 pm
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
I just picked up a pair of vintage bose 901 loudspeakers.. i don't have the bose EQ to go along, or a decent amp, but they are smurfing loud (and filling) But those aren't part of my computer stereo yet. I just thought I'd bring up that i got them for $50 at a garage sale. (with a mid-range marantz amp)
My current config is just the bose companion 2.0 series II that i picked up for video editing. The sound is amazing for music and in bose fashion, it fills the room and is very suprising for the size of the speakers. but the bass is too loose. so my next purchase will be some actual monitor speakers.
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#52 2007-08-18 11:59 pm
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
longboy wrote:
Altec Lansing ATP3 wired to the mac in the basement,<snip>
Same speakers for me - I picked them up at the start of a summer working / staying with a friend at the coast, so I didn't have a computer for them at the time. We ended up throwing them on the dash in the car, with the sub behind the passenger seat. Worked like a charm.
Unfortunately this squished the plugs going into the sub - so my sound in jack is half dead. If I don't get the cable in there just right I lose my right speaker sound 
That and the sub box is starting to wear - and has some flutter due to air leaks. 
4 years of good service though.
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#53 2007-08-19 12:08 am
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
Avari wrote:
I'm surprised no one uses the The Firewave from Griffin. I use this in conjunction with a $60 SB5 580 5.1 Creative set i picked up at best buy and the sound is just superb.
I've got one waiting for me to use. I plan on outfitting my car with new speakers all around and a subwoofer. The 4 channel amp and subwoofer amp will be fed audio from the firewave. The firewave will be connected to my TiBook. The TiBook will be connected to a lcd touchscreen in the dash. 
Car computer = great sound + iTunes + GPS + hands free phone bluetooth and more!
Now if I could just scrape together the cash for the speakers and amps...
What I have been unhappy with about the firewave is the sound setup. I don't want surround sound processing - I want to be able to duplicate the stereo output on both the front and surround outputs, but be able to fade / balance them all. In effect just like how a car stereo works. But this isn't an option - the best you get is fully surround sound interpreted - which means crappyness from the surround outputs when listening to stereo music sources (iTunes) 
I'll need to get an iMic anyway for doing handsfree calls, maybe between them I can get it sorted out...
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#54 2007-08-19 12:17 am
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
CrashingtehWarehouse wrote:
maxintosh wrote:
Bose Companion 3 speakers, or bose quietcomfort 3 headphones when my parents want quiet in the house
(my uncle works for bose)Man, tell that jerk that the jerky company he works for are all jerks because they don't release tech specs of any more importance than weight and size.
Jerks.
Also, what's with their car sound systems? In my line of work we cringe at stock amplified "premium" sound systems, doubly so at the Bose ones.
Each speaker has it's own individual amplifier on the back in many of the Bose car systems - these amps die too easily compared to a centralized amplifier. Said amps can be larger, better air cooled, protected from rain / dirt / dust / and heavy shock that takes a tool on the Bose style units, especially the Bose speakers found in doors.
I've seen them put a 4 inch speaker in an enclosure about 5 inches thick, but 2 feet wide by 1 foot tall. This oblong box gets shoved into a door - and doesn't sound as good as a 6.5" speaker would, despite having it's own amp and crazy sound enclosure.
Bose's design philosophy and engineering mindset is INSANE, backed by skilled peopl, but insane just the same. 
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#55 2007-08-19 12:37 am
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
Bose focusses more on enclosure shape and acoustics than on the actual speaker. Look at a Bose speaker (like the one in the Wave radio). It is a paper cone. However, the enclosure that the speaker resides in makes up for the lack of...decent materials.
As far as the seperate amplifier thing, I can't say much there. One central amp does make more sense. However, their speakers have some crazy impedence that most amps would fry if they ran at....if I remember correctly.
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#56 2007-10-12 9:40 pm
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
I was wondering where this thread went.
My new setup for the iMac:
iMac -> Oxygen Free Copper Shielded Cable -> Trends TA-10.1 -> Sony 5" Bookshelf Speakers
The speakers let it down a lot, but I found that the Copper shielded cable made a massive difference in the clarity of the higher end and also improved the response on the lower end. Initially I could drop off anything under the 125 in iTunes and you could only just tell, now you really can.
I'm going to upgrade the speakers at a later time. They suffice in a 3x3m dorm room enough to annoy the neighbours, no need to find a more sensitive set of speakers to piss them off further.
Something I will note, on this setup, you can tell the difference between an AAC and an mp3 at the lower qualities. (mp3 sounds mushy) Also I would highly recommend some decent OFC cables to improve the audio. (Note I say decent, not expensive)
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#57 2007-10-13 1:28 pm
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
icebook1 wrote:
Logitech Z-5500s
Yep, same here. Great THX speakers. Although we'll probably be getting some KRK VXT 8 speakers within the next 6 months when we finish our studio.
pkmgarf wrote:
Look at a Bose speaker (like the one in the Wave radio). It is a paper cone.
Bose is not known for their speaker development per se. Their speakers are actually pretty plain. As you already mentioned they are more into acoustics. Used to sell them and one day I took a 501 apart. They used a small flashlight bulb as a fuse
Having said that our 901's make great rear surround speakers.
smilr wrote:
Each speaker has it's own individual amplifier on the back in many of the Bose car systems
That's because they 'match' the speakers to the cars interior.
and doesn't sound as good as a 6.5" speaker
There are several reasons for this. First, when they design the spkr/enclosure for the doors they do it for a set flat response. The 6.5" speakers that you're replacing them with will not have a flat response, and some actually exaggerate portions of the spectrum. Another reason why you probably 'think' the 6.5" sounds better is because Bose speakers are geared for classical and jazz music, not rock/pop, rap or exaggerated bass music. I seriously doubt that many of your customers are interested in listening to classical music 
SamGuy wrote:
i don't have the bose EQ to go along, or a decent amp, but they are smurfing loud
That's because you are hearing mostly midrange. They are designed from the ground up to need the eq. Plus even though they are rated at 8 ohms they usually spec out at 6 ohms, and I'm sure your amp isn't too happy with running them without the eq.
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#58 2007-10-14 3:23 am
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
I have new headphones! Beyerdynamic DT990 (pictures & info), and Shure SE530 (pictures & info).
I don't know which I love more: music or headphones.
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#59 2007-10-14 9:36 am
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I love headphones. A good set of them will make all the difference in the world. My current set are some Vmoda earbuds that I got for free from work. They are really bass heavy, but changing the iPod EQ around fixes that. I think retail is $100, so free is good.
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#60 2007-10-15 2:11 am
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
I see at least one other person using a TA-10.1 amp, anyone else using them or got speaker recommendations? (For anyone looking for a small amp, this one packs a punch.)
As for those Beyerdynamic DT99 headphones. They need a headphone amp? Wow.
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#61 2007-10-15 12:50 pm
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
reece_james wrote:
I see at least one other person using a TA-10.1 amp, anyone else using them
This amp is a bargain and uses the Tri-Path TA2024 Class T chip. 3 other amps use this chip but the TA-10.1 takes full advantage of it. Use it with higher sensitivity speakers (88-90+ dB) in smaller (under 18') rooms for best results. You'll improve its sound if you use it with an isolator like a Vibrapod. I think they're around 8 bucks so very affordable. Works incredibly well with the UD-10 USB audio converter. If you plan to buy one don't hesitate, as the price is due to go up in a few weeks.
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#62 2007-10-15 1:00 pm
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
reece_james wrote:
As for those Beyerdynamic DT99 headphones. They need a headphone amp? Wow.
Yes, they do. 250Ohm, although you can order them directly from Germany and get a 600ohm model too. Neither of which perform well without a headphone amp.
And they sound amazing.
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#63 2007-10-15 2:00 pm
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
I just use plain ole headphones.
Of course my hearing is rather worse for wear.
Eh? what did you say?
I'm not dead yet.
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#64 2007-10-15 2:48 pm
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
I have a 10 year old pair of Yahama speakers (model YST-M15) hooked to a matching Yahama sub. When I push my chair in, the sub gets loud as hell because I have it in the foot well of my corner desk so it kind of acts like a huge speaker box. If I put the sub on the desk, you can hardly hear it. I love them because they have dual inputs so I can have both computers hooked to them, though they do get quieter when both computers are on. My hearing isn't the best anymore because of many hours around loud equipment on the farm, so they sound great to me. More expensive systems would be wasted on me. I always wanted to get a 5.1 system, but never had a good place to put the rear speakers.
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#67 2007-10-15 7:51 pm
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
MyMac8MyPC wrote:
reece_james wrote:
I see at least one other person using a TA-10.1 amp, anyone else using them
This amp is a bargain and uses the Tri-Path TA2024 Class T chip. 3 other amps use this chip but the TA-10.1 takes full advantage of it. Use it with higher sensitivity speakers (88-90+ dB) in smaller (under 18') rooms for best results.
The speakers I'm using are about as sensitive as a 40 year old steel worker. They're my next upgrade, maybe for Christmas.
As my dorm room is quite small, the sounds is fantastic anywhere in the room. I'm planing on buying isolators at some stage, at the moment there isn't much point with the speakers I'm using.
I've also noticed a large difference as the amp has burnt in, initially it was very tinny, over abut 2 weeks of use it has mellowed out a lot. (I never turn it off and set it to pass through)
I'm getting to the point now that I'm not going to notice much of a difference in the audio quality personally. The speaker upgrade and the re-import of my library is probably the extent for value vs quality. I'm a University student after all.
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#68 2007-10-15 10:23 pm
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
reece_james wrote:
The speakers I'm using are about as sensitive as a 40 year old steel worker.
LOL. I had to read that twice 
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#69 2007-10-15 10:39 pm
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
reece_james wrote:
The speakers I'm using are about as sensitive as a 40 year old steel worker.
That is hilarious. Now I want to know what exactly you are using....
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#70 2007-10-16 12:14 am
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
Similar to these. Sony ss-ccp1 speakers. About all I know is they're 6 Ohms and 87dB. I think 45W RMS.
Not the best set of speakers, but it's a starting point.
Edit: I'll be buying some of those pads. Picked up the amp and held it in my hand... It was quite an audible difference. Prompted me to relocate the amp in the meantime.
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#71 2007-10-16 1:16 am
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
reece_james wrote:
Oxygen Free Copper Shielded Cable
This is a BS marketing ploy. You don't need cables claiming to be oxygen free; or any other type of other ludicrous statement.
Shielded cables are good. In fact, what you should be using for audio cables is Canare Quad Star. Speaker cables are marketed with even more BS. The only way you are going to control what frequencies run down which slab of copper is by using a bi-amped or tri-amped system.
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#72 2007-10-16 1:28 am
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
Copper's ain't coppers. (If you do metalworking you know what I mean)
You're right, it's 99% BS. However, for $10US I got a cable that was claiming to be OFC and shielded. It's a lot better than what I was using, which could get directional hum as I moved it around.
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#74 2007-10-16 8:59 am
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Cables can get absolutely ridiculous. We sell Monster where I work, but that is like "entry level" when it comes to high quality cables.
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#75 2007-10-16 9:40 am
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Re: What Sort of Audio System Do You Use With Your Mac?
Monsters are about as far as I think anyone needs to go if you can't tell the difference between a ladybug and an F18 at 100 paces. I upgraded my cables once I realised I was getting buzz. Though $14 later solved that. No need to spend a lot of $$$ on cables. Most people can't tell the difference anyway. I seriously don't think anyone would tell the difference between mine and a monster set anyway.
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