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And then they sent him back to Atlanta.

JakeTheTall wrote:

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

I don't know the particulars of that case, but I believe legal activity done with the intent of promoting or aiding illegal activity can be prosecuted. They would have to be able to show the intent.

Wether the prosecution did in this case or not, I don't know.

resedit wrote:

I don't know the particulars of that case, but I believe legal activity done with the intent of promoting or aiding illegal activity can be prosecuted. They would have to be able to show the intent.

With this logic the government can get away with anything...
"You sir, your cars can go faster than 80 MPH, clearly you are conspiring to break the speed limit.  You are under arrest."

Fried Chicken wrote:

resedit wrote:

I don't know the particulars of that case, but I believe legal activity done with the intent of promoting or aiding illegal activity can be prosecuted. They would have to be able to show the intent.

With this logic the government can get away with anything...
"You sir, your cars can go faster than 80 MPH, clearly you are conspiring to break the speed limit.  You are under arrest."

Um no - I specifically stated, and you even quoted it, that they would have to be able to show the intent.

This means that it goes to court with the prosecution providing evidence and a judge or jury deciding beyond a reasonable doubt that it was being done with the purpose of aiding an illegal activity.

Begreifen Sie?

I seriously doubt that anyone who walked into their shop said, "Can I see your hydroponics set-ups?  I want to start growing pot."

If they did, they should have been asked to leave.

The local record store (yes, they still exist) refuses to help you and asks you to leave the store if you say anything about smoking anything other than tobacco while you're looking at the, er -- water pipes.

I think these people got screwed.

Last edited by Pithecanthropus (2007-08-24 9:59 am)

I find this funny:

conspiracy to manufacture marijuana

Since when can you manufacture something that is grown?

user wrote:

kev manufactures corn every year.

I thought Disney did that.

Phydeaux wrote:

resedit wrote:

Fried Chicken wrote:

With this logic the government can get away with anything...
"You sir, your cars can go faster than 80 MPH, clearly you are conspiring to break the speed limit.  You are under arrest."

Um no - I specifically stated, and you even quoted it, that they would have to be able to show the intent.

They find receipts for premium gas and point out that you have spoiler. Also, if you have decals on your car, that proves that you're trying to add 1-5 evil horsepower per sticker. Bam, intent.

Those "go faster" bars on the backs of cars are a dead giveaway.

It used to be the "go faster" pins holding the hood down, replaced by the "go faster" mud flaps and ground effects bib, followed by the go faster under belly lights (blue was the fastest colour). I think those go faster grill bras added some HP as well, but I guess not enough because you don't see them much anymore.

Btw, when you buy your grow lights and stuff, best to do it with cash and in store so that our ass-backwards government can't track you.

This reminds me of Chong going to jail for selling bongs.

Our government needs a big slap to the head wake up call. Why oh why is this stuff happening? ? ?

resedit wrote:

It is legal to drive a street car beyond the speed limit in designated non pubic roadways. Having those things does not indicate you intend to break the law, just like buying fertilizer and renting a u-haul doesn't mean you are going to blow up a building.

However - if this guy knew what his customers were doing and still sold to them, then (even though I think pot should be legal) he knew he was assisting them in illegal activity.

Except there is nothing inherently wrong with selling hydroponics equipment. There are people like orchid growers who use them. Would you really want to place store owners in the position of deciding to whom they can sell their wares based on what the buyers might do with such?

What evidence did the prosecution provide?
[snip]

They got people who were caught and prosecuted for growing marijuana to give statements which implicated the store owners' involvement in exchange for lighter sentences. The prosecutors offered the store owners lighter sentences if they would implicate some of their customers as growers but they refused to do that.

EDIT: added middle paragraph.

Last edited by D'Eyncourt (2007-08-24 3:16 pm)

user wrote:

So why do we have a Federal Police Agency responsible for pursuing only one area of crime anyway? If we were going to do that, wouldn't an agency responsible for pursuing only murder cases be more important?

There's no money in murder. With drug laws, they can sieze all your assets, and sell them at auction (or just use them themselves, a lot of police departments convert seized vehicles into police cars)

When the cops can make money investigating murders, you can bet there will be a special squad just for that.