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I like purple. Orange is okay too.

How about a UV one? Die! From skin cancer!

those people who "dont like" what he's doing with the movies are morons.

This is a story about the force, and the people who use it.

it's about how Anikan was lured to the dark side, and was thought to be the one who would bring balance to the force, but it turns out that Qui gon is seeing Luke, who is the one who brings balance to the force.


that's all.

it's a simple, cool tale of two generations of warfare in a make beleive galaxy.

Next time you think of saying "george lucas is a faceist, he's not doing what we want"

bite your tounge. it doesn't matter what you want because you don't understand the story.

The only books that are OFFICIALLY authorized to help define the universe are, as I've been told, the Zhan books. There are 5, I think.

Fine with me. Zahn was easily the best of the Star Wars authors.

Allston and Stackpole were also really good, but nothing they wrote about would affect the storyline heavily anyway.

The only books that are OFFICIALLY authorized to help define the universe are, as I've been told, the Zhan books. There are 5, I think.

sorry, but youre wrong.
lucas allows other books to be written, but he has nothing to do with them, he dosent even read the others. there is a "cannon" in the star wars universe, and there are people at lucasfilm who read them and allow books, but lucas has nothing to do with that. it is his universe, and he is god of his universe. he is allowed to do what ever he pleases.

as far as the expanded universe goes, with the exception of a few books, they all follow the same storyline constantly refrencing to eachother. the zahn books refer to events that happen in other stories, and other stories refer to events that happen to that. perhaps you heard what you did by someone because zahn was the first person allowed to write a (non movie) book (w/ the exception of splinter of the minds eye, which was written right after ANH, and that technically didnt happen, probably due to the romance between luke and leia, and that darth vader fell into a bottomless hole:p).

as far as the quote that allisons and stakpoles books wont affect the storyline heavily, are you reffering to the possible movies of ep 7-9 (which will never happen because lucas belives he is getting too old, and wont give the rights to anyone else to make the movies), or the story line as it is known in the expanded universe? if it is the latter, i would suggest reading the New Jedi Order books.

point is, the authors try to go along with lucas says, but lucas dosent even read what the others write pretty much (or at least he wont admit to it )

anyways, i dont know where the quote saying that there are only 3 colors for a lightsaber came from, in all the books ive read, ive never seen anything like that, to the contrary, ive seen lots of jedi with lots of different colors for lightsabers (and even lightsabers that can change length at the will of their weilder).


nice thread though

im not telling you what color my lightsaber is. i prefer to keep it hidden till the moment i have to kill someone. no one else alive knows the color. lets hope you dont learn

I have a question for all of you Star Wars freaks.  I have recently decided that I want to start reading the books.  I remember right after The Phantom Menace came out I saw a book in the book store that was supposed to be it's prologue.  The thing is that I want to read the story line in it's entirety.  I want to start from the very beginning and work my way from there, without missing any "in between" stories that may be along the way.  Can someone please tell me what the first book to read would be?  Is it The Phantom Menace, or some other book?  If someone would please tell me the first few books of the story I would be very appreciative.  If there really isn't a straight story line, then would someone please suggest to me an order in which they should be read?  For example, I read The Hobbit before I read The Lord Of The Rings.  Anything that anyone could contribute to my knowledge would be great  Thanks in advance.

Side note, if Mac geeks are a niche within a niche (computer geeks), then what does that make Mac geeks who are also Star Wars geeks? 

JediKnightChewie--

Check this out:  Darth Maul: Saboetur
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/bookse … 1589455568

A search on amazon resulted in the same thing.  At lease it is available in some form....

Thanks for the recommendations.    I will put them on my to do list.   

those people who "dont like" what he's doing with the movies are morons...

bite your tounge. it doesn't matter what you want because you don't understand the story.

I don't care what the alleged concept is. The last two movies were poorly written, poorly acted, and poorly directed.

If you read the annotated screenplays for the original 3, you can see how much work went into every aspect of the story and of the production. The scripts were written and rewritten dozens (if not scores) of times as charcters were developed, erased, and developed again. Plot points were introduced, played with, then removed, altered, or kept. The idea of the Force and its mystic qualities was deeply researched (only to be completely undermined in the new movies). After the first movie was a success, Lucas got someone else to direct the next two so that he could give special attention to other aspects of the production. For Empire, Lucas and Spielberg held a special screening of the scene where Han gets frozen in carbonite just so they could figure out which of two lines Han should say in reply to Leia declaring her love for him as he goes into the pit (Han originally said "I love you, too," but they also tested "I know" and the test audience loved the second line, and that's the line that made the final cut).

A lot of care went into the first films, but the most recent two are first drafts at best.

Just look at AotC: 3PO is totally inconsistent with his persona from the originals; Anakin is a totally unlovable character yet somehow Padme becomes all ga-ga for him; young Boba Fett was such an absurdly sadistic little kid that he's practically a joke; Jango Fett was left totally undeveloped; the arena scene (before the Jedi arrive to save the day) represents the worst of super villian bad ideas (it's the same kind of nonsense that stopped the Penguin and the Joker from defeating Batman and Robin week after week); Anakin and Padme''s run through the robot factory looked like a giant video game; and the final battle at the end w/ Yoda succeeds only because its a big ironic gag ("Hey, look at the little green guy go! And now he picks up his cane and starts limping again! Ha!"); not to mention some really bad dialogue (mainly the jokes) and some really bad acting (mainly everyone who wasn't a CGI character or puppet).

I don't know what Lucas's reasons are for this or what he's thinking, but I'd say that, at best, TPM and AotC fail to live up to the quality of the originals, and, at worst, they fail to entertain. Just saying, "Hey, they're Lucas's movies!" does not make them good and does not make them above criticism. Zahn's first three books do a much better job of capturing the spirit of the original movies, and it's a shame that Lucas won't take the time to make sure he accomplishes at least that much with his own work.

those people who "dont like" what he's doing with the movies are morons...

bite your tounge. it doesn't matter what you want because you don't understand the story.

I don't care what the alleged concept is. The last two movies were poorly written, poorly acted, and poorly directed.

If you read the annotated screenplays for the original 3, you can see how much work went into every aspect of the story and of the production. The scripts were written and rewritten dozens (if not scores) of times as charcters were developed, erased, and developed again. Plot points were introduced, played with, then removed, altered, or kept. The idea of the Force and its mystic qualities was deeply researched (only to be completely undermined in the new movies). After the first movie was a success, Lucas got someone else to direct the next two so that he could give special attention to other aspects of the production. For Empire, Lucas and Spielberg held a special screening of the scene where Han gets frozen in carbonite just so they could figure out which of two lines Han should say in reply to Leia declaring her love for him as he goes into the pit (Han originally said "I love you, too," but they also tested "I know" and the test audience loved the second line, and that's the line that made the final cut).

A lot of care went into the first films, but the most recent two are first drafts at best.

Just look at AotC: 3PO is totally inconsistent with his persona from the originals; Anakin is a totally unlovable character yet somehow Padme becomes all ga-ga for him; young Boba Fett was such an absurdly sadistic little kid that he's practically a joke; Jango Fett was left totally undeveloped; the arena scene (before the Jedi arrive to save the day) represents the worst of super villian bad ideas (it's the same kind of nonsense that stopped the Penguin and the Joker from defeating Batman and Robin week after week); Anakin and Padme''s run through the robot factory looked like a giant video game; and the final battle at the end w/ Yoda succeeds only because its a big ironic gag ("Hey, look at the little green guy go! And now he picks up his cane and starts limping again! Ha!"); not to mention some really bad dialogue (mainly the jokes) and some really bad acting (mainly everyone who wasn't a CGI character or puppet).

I don't know what Lucas's reasons are for this or what he's thinking, but I'd say that, at best, TPM and AotC fail to live up to the quality of the originals, and, at worst, they fail to entertain. Just saying, "Hey, they're Lucas's movies!" does not make them good and does not make them above criticism. Zahn's first three books do a much better job of capturing the spirit of the original movies, and it's a shame that Lucas won't take the time to make sure he accomplishes at least that much with his own work.

George Lucas has said that He doesn't make a movie to please the audience. He just tells the story he wants to tell. And he does it because he can. After all, he makes the movies with his own money. And there's no better way to make a starwars movie than the George Lucas way. I've liked ALL the movies. Then again, I've been a fan since Episode 4. 

Hey! You took my idea!

well, i have a ton of old scripts/etc on my comp, and this is the oldest star wars i could find, its more of a basic storyline, i have about 7 for the first star wars move, although im not sure if this one counts because its not really a script, its more of a 5 page pseudo script. this is from the middle of 1973, almost to the day 4 years before the original movie came out.  its intresting and not too long, id suggest you read it. if i get time ill get the script that was written up a year later. that one was even more intresting

i just think its pretty cool getting to see what lucas liked from his original ideas, and what he dosent.

http://www.geocities.com/jediknightchewie//SW.html

I think there are even earlier drafts around somewhere. At one point, I'm pretty sure Skywalker was called Starkiller, and I think those versions represent the earliest stuff. There are also some where you can see how Dune was a really strong influence early on.

Definitely Black. 

MK