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#51 2007-09-06 1:22 am

allan
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Re: iPod Touch

Dumb question: Can one listen to a song while surfing at the same time? I live in Canada so we don't have any iPhone-like gadgets to play around with, hence the dumb questions. smile

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#52 2007-09-06 1:37 am

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Re: iPod Touch

allan wrote:

Dumb question: Can one listen to a song while surfing at the same time? I live in Canada so we don't have any iPhone-like gadgets to play around with, hence the dumb questions. smile

It's obvious that you'd be able to do this.


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#53 2007-09-06 2:37 am

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Re: iPod Touch

It needs a card reader.

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#54 2007-09-06 2:54 am

mo' ron
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Re: iPod Touch

Proost wrote:

It needs a card reader.

How would that work?

Pop a card in and wait 5 minutes for the iPod to index the card? Or not have any album art or ratings or gapless playback or anything like that?

It would be a neat feature but it doesn't fit with the iTunes way of doing things, and Apple is not going to compromise ease of use to do it.

I think they should have kept bluetooth, but I see why they didn't.


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#55 2007-09-06 3:24 am

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Re: iPod Touch

mo' ron wrote:

Proost wrote:

It needs a card reader.

How would that work?

Pop a card in and wait 5 minutes for the iPod to index the card? Or not have any album art or ratings or gapless playback or anything like that?

It would be a neat feature but it doesn't fit with the iTunes way of doing things, and Apple is not going to compromise ease of use to do it.

I think they should have kept bluetooth, but I see why they didn't.

Ok I see your point. Its just nice when you want to see your photo's from your camera without the need of a computer. Also you have extra cheap storage.

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#56 2007-09-06 8:40 am

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Re: iPod Touch

SamGuy wrote:

actually... Office or exchange support would make me get one.

No outlook web access at work? (I'm loving it.)


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#57 2007-09-06 9:10 am

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Re: iPod Touch

Does it have a camera built in like the iPhones?


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#58 2007-09-06 9:13 am

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Re: iPod Touch

I still like it, but the name sucks. Especially after watching the video where that guy says it about 50 times. Ugh. 'Touch'...

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#59 2007-09-06 9:27 am

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Re: iPod Touch

For additional storage space and battery power, something akin to this:
http://www.newertech.com/products/vidplus.php
would be nice.

I have the nupower video+ battery for my video iPod, and even though it's a little bulky, it was a Godsend on both my trip to the midwest, and day before yesterday when our power was out from 2pm to 2 am.

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#60 2007-09-06 10:36 am

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Re: iPod Touch

mo' ron wrote:

I think they should have kept bluetooth, but I see why they didn't.

there is still hope


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#61 2007-09-06 10:51 am

judomeerkat
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Re: iPod Touch

I love the concept of the iPod touch, but there's no way I can justify that cost when the maximum storage is just 16GB. Hopefully we'll see updated storage capacity within the next few months/years. *crosses fingers*

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#62 2007-09-06 10:56 am

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Re: iPod Touch

Dodo wrote:

mo' ron wrote:

I think they should have kept bluetooth, but I see why they didn't.

there is still hope

Please let it be true.


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#63 2007-09-06 11:16 am

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Re: iPod Touch

judomeerkat wrote:

I love the concept of the iPod touch, but there's no way I can justify that cost when the maximum storage is just 16GB. Hopefully we'll see updated storage capacity within the next few months/years. *crosses fingers*

Obviously we'll see it in the next few years, but it's "only" 16GB because flash memory is still really expensive/MB compared to HD. For this pricepoint, 16GB is plenty. A 16GB flash drive alone is about $150, so just imagine even doubling the iPod's memory would put it back in to the people bitching about the price (being too high, that is, not that people aren't bitching about the price regardless).

Personally, as an aspiring engineer, I kind of hate flash memory in general for its inelegance, and I would really like another technology to replace it.


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#64 2007-09-06 11:30 am

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Re: iPod Touch

Mr. T wrote:

Alien wrote:

Solid state memories adhere to powers-of-two size limits because of the way they are manufactured. Unlike magnetic storage, they are true binary devices.

There are plenty of 6GB flash drives used in other MP3 player brands.

They'll be using three 6 GB chips inside.

In the computing world, sticking with powers of two is sometimes useful, but in the case of flash storage, there's no practical advantage in doing it that way.

Like hell, there isn't! Every address line you add to a device exactly doubles the  address space.

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#65 2007-09-06 12:02 pm

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Re: iPod Touch

Phydeaux wrote:

Dodo wrote:

mo' ron wrote:

I think they should have kept bluetooth, but I see why they didn't.

there is still hope

Please let it be true.

One time I bought an Dell Axim x3i Pocket PC (yes I know...leave me alone) and it came with built in wifi but no bluetooth, but when I actually got it, the little antenna "nub" had both a WiFi symbol AND a Bluetooth signal

Needless, to say, I was miffed when I later read that the x3i was originally meant to have Bluetooth, but it was dropped for costs sake...except they decided it would be cheaper to use the same antenna covers that they'd previously decided to use. So for a few minutes, I thought I'd have some bluetooth action for free...but alas...Dell broke my heart.

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#66 2007-09-06 12:32 pm

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Re: iPod Touch

Dodo wrote:

mo' ron wrote:

I think they should have kept bluetooth, but I see why they didn't.

there is still hope

The UI comp has been corrected on Apple's German website:
http://www.apple.com/de/ipodtouch/gallery/index10.html

Those are never shots of the actual UI. They are usually Photoshop or Illustrator design comps that are applied to the devise after product shots have been taken.

I imagine the iPhone's design comps started from the same source material as the iPhone's. However, someone forgot to delete the little bluetooth layer. I've definitely done stupid stuff like this at work.

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#67 2007-09-06 1:42 pm

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Re: iPod Touch

Proost wrote:

It needs a card reader.

EXACTLY. This device would be a friggin' 10 out of 10 if it supported an SD mini card.

Are you listening Apple?!

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#68 2007-09-06 1:56 pm

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Re: iPod Touch

Alien wrote:

Mr. T wrote:

Alien wrote:

Solid state memories adhere to powers-of-two size limits because of the way they are manufactured. Unlike magnetic storage, they are true binary devices.

There are plenty of 6GB flash drives used in other MP3 player brands.

They'll be using three 6 GB chips inside.

I think you mean three 2 GB chips and I'm not entire sure that is always the case. Considering solid state memory can be mixed and matched, I'd say 2 & 4 combos are more likely.

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#69 2007-09-06 1:58 pm

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Re: iPod Touch

mikedemo wrote:

Proost wrote:

It needs a card reader.

EXACTLY. This device would be a friggin' 10 out of 10 if it supported an SD mini card.

Are you listening Apple?!

CF cards?  I guess that would be a large card reader though.

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#70 2007-09-06 2:11 pm

judomeerkat
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Re: iPod Touch

Its funny that technology has come so far that we are back to using our hands to accomplish things. wink

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#71 2007-09-06 3:48 pm

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Re: iPod Touch

judomeerkat wrote:

Its funny that technology has come so far that we are back to using our hands to accomplish things. wink

And what were you using before? Your feet or butt?

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#72 2007-09-06 4:55 pm

mikedemo
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Re: iPod Touch

thelegendofjohn wrote:

mikedemo wrote:

Proost wrote:

It needs a card reader.

EXACTLY. This device would be a friggin' 10 out of 10 if it supported an SD mini card.

Are you listening Apple?!

CF cards?  I guess that would be a large card reader though.

Dude, I said mini SD

http://www.phonemag.com/images/cellphones/SD_miniSD_microSD.jpg
http://www.alexmaldonado.com/images/Sandisk_miniSD_2GB.jpg


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#73 2007-09-06 5:28 pm

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Re: iPod Touch

Mini SD isn't nearly as common as Transflash/Micro SD, but I get the point.

There was a iPod dock connector to USB thing that could transfer digital pictures... think that'd work to dump the content directly into the photo thing on this new device? Before I think it just dumped it on a folder. Regardless, I wonder if a 10-in-1 reader or whatever could plug into that thing.


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#74 2007-09-06 6:49 pm

dv
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Re: iPod Touch

If this thing actually supports a few decent applications, I think Apple just made a PDA.

blush


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#75 2007-09-06 10:12 pm

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Re: iPod Touch

dvpierce wrote:

If this thing actually supports a few decent applications, I think Apple just made a PDA.

blush

Should be the iPod NEWTON!!!!!!


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